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Sound Sense

Posted on December 7November 14

Ken brings a poetic flare to things, and it makes them better. He's working what seems like a raw cross between Alexander Pope and a freestyle rapper, and it's fun. Below are a couple favs, with his blessing. -Pen

Libertarians thinking to vote Republican,
Just because they cannot stand the other man?
If a majority vote to burn the house down,
We prepare our homes for the storm unbound.
Sometimes people need to make mistakes,
To change their mind that is what it takes.
#VoteYourPrinciples

The world is a complex place,
Each experience has its own face.
Saying that your solution fits all,
Is authoritarianism’s sirens call.
Let’s each other to liberty leave,
And let reality our ideas sieve.
#VoteGold

Great to see #NolibertariansUnder1K,
When we normally to ourselves stay.
We wade into the war of broader culture,
Though our soul feels thrown into a mulcher.
The daggers well sharpened from infight,
Let us turn to exposing the statist blight.


Ken N. is “just a libertarian guy, ain't gonna lie. A bit of a crooner, I also read Spooner. Mackin' on some reeses, while I chill with some Mises.” You can follow him at www.twitter.com/shoganate.

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I Will Do Mine

Posted on October 29November 14

It began with the one and only @5stringtex (aka Jeff). He just had to go and recommend us some podcasts. This free-will thinker's podcast was among them. I was excited to find it at first. It turns out the dude just got his Ph.D. in matters related to free-will, his podcast has an episode where he is sympathetic to anarchy, AND he is conservative. This was especially cool because according to our friend Nathan, conservative-anarchy combinations are not possible. Nathan must travel in strange circles, as I see conservative ancaps all the time. Then again, I see elves all the time. Maybe I travel in strange circles. 

Anyway, I largely agree with the free-will thinker, but he had to go and drop some lines claiming Christians (in the US) should not vote for third-party candidates. In this he borrows from the William Lane Craig, quoting him thusly: “… anyone who votes for a third-party candidate who has no realistic chance of winning is guilty of a dereliction of duty.” After I read that, there was so going to be words.

Words

Some elaboration on that quote’s context is in order. First, Craig’s primary interest here is the advancement of biblical values in the public square. He is not voting Trump for the personality. Furthermore, he is mostly concerned about Christians leaving an important decisions to others, about poor influence-stewardship. (Maybe we can invent a new vice and call it: po’ flu-stew!) (No? Ok.)

Finally, Craig didn’t actually say that. Many have misquoted him so, but it’s not quite right. Under the ellipses, it turns out that Craig qualified his remark. He expressed hesitancy in admitting to a mere inclination. Specifically, he said, “I must confess, Ken, that I am inclined to think that anyone who votes for a third-party candidate . . .” and so on. (Yeah, it sounds stronger with the ellipses, and I’m not saying the difference is intentional, but c’mon!) With three concerns, I commend Craig’s slight agnosticism on this point.

Concern 1: It’s not clear that Craig is right. 

First, the fear of man is a snare, and the parties know the people are hooked. The custom of not voting third-party has taught the main parties that they only need to run the least horrible option to win. Unsurprisingly, candidates have worsened until the current president is only in power because he ran against the worst candidate in American history. So, the fear of voting third-party gives the main parties such a loose leash that they all but “determine who our leaders will be.”[1] But, if enough people vote for, say, an old school conservative like Ron Paul, the Republicans may take note. (Demand, meet supply.) If you really want to choose your candidates, vote third-party, vote your conscience.

Second, there is a time for every purpose, even for Christians to invest their votes. Craig’s view depends on a clear preference being evident among the candidates, but should a Republican candidate be practically as bad as a Democrat in terms of advancing biblical values, it seems the Christian is not compelled to vote for one over the other. In fact, if he does not vote third party, he might actually fail to steward well his opportunity to invest in better candidates. Whether one thinks Americans are close to that point in the current presidential race or not depends a great deal on one’s social theory, views on abortion, and hatred of war, but either way, Craig’s inclination depends on there being a clear preference between the two candidates, and this is not going be the case in every race this year. There aren’t even two candidates in every race.

Third, the claim that Christians voting third-party are neglecting a duty to wield influence, well it forgets a lot. For example, it forgets about red states. A Christian could vote for Mickey Mouse in a red state, and it would have zero effect on the electoral college and thus the outcome. The state is voting red regardless of that Christian's vote. Not much influence. Instead of voting Mickey Mouse, the Christian could give their conscience a break and invest their vote. It may be the only influence they really have.

Fourth, the po' flu-stew claim also forgets about oaths. Some people have taken an oath to protect the constitution. They may not be free to positively support the lesser of two underminings of the constitution. They may be required to vote Constitution Party if they vote at all. In my experience, such oaths were to protect kings. Those who had taken one were to stand with their king especially in unlikely odds. Joining the least threatening of the king’s enemies in their attack would have been thought such a foolish act of cowardice as to make their eventual death a welcome mercy on their soul. Ultimately, these Christians may be duty-bound to vote third-party, to write someone in, or to not vote at all. If so, then they are not forsaking duty but fulfilling it. So it seems Craig’s inclination may be mistaken yet again, and so I recommend his measure agnosticism yet again.

Fifth, someone once said that voting was one of the lowest means of activism, second only to participating in a political poll. If this is even partly true, then perhaps it is better for the voter to invest their vote with a clean conscience and then to get busy making real change with better resources. This seems applicable to that voter mentioned above, the one with two horrible candidates, in a non-swing state, having taken an oath to protect the constitution. For that person, it is less clear that God has much of a preference, let alone if his investing his vote is a dereliction of duty, and so I commend Craig’s- you know what I’m going to say here.

Concern 2: The principle of the thing.

A few other things bother me. First, there seems to be something profoundly wrong in advocating what you gravely detest. (Duh. Right?) This is a fundamental principle to me, but also there’s something unhealthy in acting against principle, in voting for someone you don’t favor, someone you find somewhat repulsive. In that respect, it seems somewhat wrong too, and the encouraging of others to do something that is bad for their hearts bothers me. I get that there are ethical nuances involved. Still, just as policy comes before personality, so principle comes before pragmatics, and voting against one's beliefs out of fear of consequences is the exact opposite of that. There is an invisible message on every ballot that reads: “Do it, or else.”[2] Personally, I admire more the man who stands on principle and shouts, “Do your worst for I will do mine!” than the one with an argument for saying, “Ok.”

Per Martkn Luther, to go against conscience is neither right nor safe. If a Christian being compelled by conscience can’t vote R or D, then isn't it better that they just stay at home or that they vote third-party? And, who would tell him to vote contrary to his conscience? For those who wouldn’t, yep, I recommend Craig’s measure of agnosticism on this matter.

If it is better to vote for what one truly believes (more righteous, more principled, more healthy) than it is to put your hand to some evil out of fear of a worse one, then Craig’s inclination is false. And, it may well be that it is truly better to vote for what one believes, so it is not clear that Craig’s inclination is correct.

Concern 3: Pragmatics of Principle. 

Let’s grant for the sake of argument, that it is better to vote for what one truly believes. Then what can we say? Positively, there is power in principle, in sticking by your guns, standing your ground, and living in truth. The Bible says God keeps the way of the righteous, that we are, in all our ways (even in voting) to honor God and that he will make our paths straight. Besides, terrans, what would your Vaclav Havel say about those who vote against their consciences? Would he say that they had to? that they were otherwise powerless against the state’s evil? or perhaps that they were complicit with their compromise?

But so what if being faithful and trusting in God, did lead into a storm? Are we willing to say, “Though he slay me I will trust in him?” That “He gives and takes away?” Or would we be quick to call a siren’s call our duty? If God intends a man to refuse the state’s deal, the deal of a decrease in the violation he and his children's rights if he just plays along, then he should refuse, and pray, come what may.

My Take-away

All this said, I like Dr. Craig’s work and his style. The free-thinker, Dr. Tim Stratton, seems cool too, for a bald guy. He ends his post with a humble and encouraging note saying that he is not trying to settle the debate, that he's just trying to inform others of his sense of things. It's hard to fault that. (So am I.) In fact, while I understand this particular objection to third-party voting, I also commend and recommend Craig’s caution about it. Now, to read Stratton’s book so I can recommend it too.[3] 

1. Given these considerations, if we also grant a real concern about the deepstate gaming the system, then the main-party voter chooses their own candidate even less. The conscientious voter, however, would not play in their hands and would resist such tyrannical manipulation.

2. Now, the objector may say that just as the perfect is the enemy of the good, the good is the enemy of the better and that all they are doing is voting for better. Better is not a bad thing to vote for, but their vote isn’t “let’s slaughter less innocents,” but rather “lets slaughter these innocents” (overseas) That seems like a bad vote, even if it happens to be fewer right now. That makes a difference to me especially because there are more effective ways to advocate for the innocents at home than voting R.

3. Actually, I have a part two to this post on the way. I may have to get to that first. Dang it. EDIT: Part two has arrived!

Astra inclinant, sed non obligant

Posted on September 1November 14

The stars incline us. They do not bind us.
Anonymous, Some bathroom wall

Hello again. I lead with the quote to sound smart… and because I like it. It really nails the free-will debate for me. Most people know what free-will is. They don’t walk around with a definition in hand, but they have a vague idea. The opposite problem plagues the academics. They are ready with the definitions, but they're just very very wrong ones.

By free-will, I mean the kernel of that old chestnut where a person’s decisions are determined by themselves, so-called libertarian free-will (LFW). I have started a working collection of definitions for LFW, but I also think this quote helps. or at least it is interesting: 

“If I believe that something not identical to myself was the cause of my behavior—some event wholly external to myself, for instance, or even one internal to myself, such as a nerve impulse, volition, or whatnot—then I cannot regard the behavior as being an act of mine, unless I further believed that I was the cause of that external or internal event”

(Richard Taylor, quoted here)

Belief in LFW seems to be right, important, and healthy. A man just has to believe in things like that. Other examples might be love, justice, right, wrong, and virtue; and this remains even should the evidence at hand ever be neutral. These beliefs are part of being human, of being a good man. Having them is healthy and denying them isn’t. Now I am not advocating believing against reason. These truths are often known immediately, innately, and… anyway I'm rambling.

It just seems strange when some people bring up objections to LFW involving God! (Yes, I saw it happened recently, and I got a little worked up.) More on all this the next time I bring up LFW. For now, it’s time for some rest.

That lucky cut-out of mine never gets tired or sick! That could make a person jealous, but at least I'm free.

That's all for now.

– Pen

Waking Them Up

Posted on September 29January 11

Earlier this week, I made an outline of the Smith Sarwark debate. Now you get to hear some of my thoughts. You’re welcome. 🙂

First, debates can be very helpful, but they also go bad easily. I need them to be engaging to get anything out of them, so I say debates need to be important and fun and followable… enough for the intended audience anyway. Second, someone should walkaway introduced to the whole scope of the matter at hand. Walking away with just two obscure takes leaves too much to be desired.

On both accounts, this debate did pretty well. It was easy to follow, for the careful listener anyway. Some of it seemed lost on Sarwark, but meh. Also, it was not dry. Smith kept it fun. Sarwark made it a bit creepy,1 but fun and lively it was.

Interestingly, each debater fit his message. Smith, in regular clothes and speech, stood passionately for profound yet basic principles. Sarwark illustrated his points with sales, twice, and with his suit and subtly crafty rhetoric, he fit the part. Dial them up, and one can imagine Smith pounding his fist and yelling, “Give me liberty or give me death!” while Sarwark worries about the Tory-vote.

Smith spoke to (and in the spirit of) the best in civilization. Sarwark's appearance of sincerity just clashed with his wormtonguery and the stench of b.s. on his breath. Smith won the debate. However, the line of the night goes to Tom Woods. Per Smith's quote:

We libertarians are the inheritors of an exceptionally venerable tradition of ideas that is noble and beautiful, and that carries a grave responsibility. We must be true to that inheritance. Enough putting people to sleep already. It’s time we finally woke them up.

Tom Woods

1. For just one example, if Sarwark took the time to pander to the audience and pet their emotions with “You’re special,” one more time, I was going to get sick. Someone from the audience should have yelled, “Thanks mommy!” His general style was off-putting as well.

2. Sarwark’s rhetorical care, dodges, and ploys were collectively and repetitively called out as “lawyering”. Sarwark even attempted to punt the label back once.

Smith Sarwark Debate

Posted on September 26March 22

The Libertarian Party should never again put out national candidates whose views are similar to those of Gary Johnson and Bill Weld.

Affirmative: Dave Smith
Negative: Nick Sarwark

  1. Dave's Opening Statement:
    1. The liberty movement over and before the libertarian party.
      1. This is how it is for Dave. Dave cares about:
        1. The Liberty movement.
        2. The philosophy of liberty and
        3. Seeing liberty in people’s lives.
      2. Liberty is about civilization itself.
        1. NAP.
        2. Don’t hit others, and don’t take their stuff.
    2. Things are bad, getting worse. Hitler and Stalin would be impressed with our statism, but libertarians have the answers. So do we make a difference?
      1. A difference is bringing others in. It is not aggressing against other libertarians, especially with leftist tactics.
      2. Two narratives about making a difference:
        1. False narrative: It’s pragmatic leftist libertarians who get votes vs. anal anarchists who get in the way.
        2. True Narrative: Winning more people gets more votes, and votes without conversion amounts to little.
      3. The exemplar, the libertarian that converts people is Ron Paul. How?
        1. He was courageous and principled.
        2. He had an epic message.
          1. Not watered down views.
          2. Not “I think the system could be tweaked to be more fair.”
      4. The center is not where you recruit!
        1. Centrists lose elections. Who won? Obama, Trump.
        2. Centrists: Hillary Clinton, Lindsey Graham.
        3. Libertarian party marketed from the center and it hurt.
    3. Particular Views of Johnson-Weld:
      1. Disqualifying views
        1. Concept: If you have a candidate that was for free trade, lowering taxes rates and was for gay marriage in 2004 and if it was Dick Cheney whose instituted torture He’d be disqualified in spite of other good views.
        2. Disqualifying views of these two candidates:
          1. Johnson: That Weld should be his VP, especially as a partnership.
          2. Bill Weld a lobbyist for a weapons company, vouched for Hilary as a principled person, endorsed Iraq, …
    4. Tom Woods quote: “We libertarians are the inheritors of an exceptionally venerable tradition of ideas that is noble and beautiful, and that carries a grave responsibility. We must be true to that inheritance. Enough putting people to sleep already. It’s time we finally woke them up.“

  2. Nick's Opening Statement:
    1. Pushing a rock up hill. Realized he’s not the home team.
    2. Only disqualifying views heard. Johnson wanted bill Weld. Weld thought Hillary was honest, Weld and weapons company.
    3. You special and different because you are a libertarian.
    4. LP is a political instrument, so
      1. no think tank and other such stuff. Instead,
      2. Running people for office to effect policy and set the world free in our life time.
      3. Dave ‘s way:
        1. Dave is more about hearts than votes.
        2. Dave doesn’t care about the party because he doesn’t care about politics.
        3. Libertarian party has tried it Dave’s way.
          1. Interprets statistics as Johnson Weld out performing Ron Paul in votes and money.
          2. Political Parties should run candidates and get votes.
          3. Appeal to subjective preference in diverse issues and purity tests.
            1. Weapons company work is just: “not work I would take.”
            2. This is not as big a deal to other libertarians.
              1. Appeal to ideo-diversity of libertarians.
              2. Different priorities and come from different places. Thirds. Left, right, f the man (with missed votes).
          4. Numbers persuade. The officials must feel the heat if not see the light.
            1. Vouching for Hillary appealed to leftists.
            2. Must balance of Purity and Profile.
            3. 87% of Johnson’s voters were not libertarian.

  3. Dave's Rebuttal:
    1. Regarding Ron Paul in 1988 and Gary Johnson,
      1. Ron didn’t inherit the Ron Paul movement and
      2. Ron wasn’t running against such hated candidates.
      3. So why call this a victory?
    2. 87% who voted for Gary weren’t libertarians, and they’re still not.
    3. Gary is said to have done so well, but the liberty movement is doing worse than it was in 2012.
    4. Regarding more views to discuss, being pro- war and pro- fed was enough to disqualify someone.
    5. It’s less that Weld preferred Hillary to Trump than it is why:
      1. With an hour on CNN We disagree on some economic issues but she’s a good person.
        1. Good person? Suuuuure.
        2. One should lead with Libya, Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, …
        3. Weld objected to Trump’s ending wars message.
    6. We are competing with Hitler in the genocide. The LP has to support the liberty movement
      1. that is being at least anti war and anti fed
      2. Johnson Weld also not good on the fed.

  4. Nick's Rebuttal:
    1. No body cares about the fed outside the libertarian
    2. Either the LP is to get people in the movement or to win votes.
    3. Votes have to come from non-libertarians.
    4. Either the LP can leave others until they are libertarian or they get them to vote L anyway (and maybe again in the future).
    5. Johnson Weld
      1. was anti-war.
      2. had some libertarian positions
    6. Mind the audience.
    7. You’re special.
    8. Meet votes where they are.

  5. QnA
    1. Would you prefer a Gary Johnson or a Ron Paul candidate next time?
      1. Nick: Whoever is speaking bold in the empty space between the other two candidates.
      2. Dave: Would you rather have had Ron Paul? Hell, yes?
    2. If you could run Dick Cheney on the LP and get 10 million votes would that be a good move?
      1. Nick: That’s a bad bargain.
    3. Is that because certain views are disqualifying?
      1. Nick: No.
    4. Are there any positions that would be disqualifying for you?
      1. Nick: Pro-war is disqualifying.
    5. Who should we nominate in 2020?
      1. Dave: Anybody willing to run an anti-war and anti-fed nominee bare minimum. Austin Peterson would have been better, others too.
    6. Which did you vote for in 2016?
      1. Dave: You gotta win my vote. No one.
      2. Nick: You know because I voted.
    7. Convert a million people to libertarianism or shrink the state a bit?
      1. Dave: False choice.
    8. Nick, do you see your broad tent catering more to the pseudo’s from the big parties or to the intellectual diversity in the party?
      1. Nick: The diversity of thought extends beyond the Mises Institute. There are two groups: “propertarians,” and individual rights / reason libertarians. People who don’t vote for LP candidates on principle are part of the problem.
      2. Dave: I’m a soldier in liberty movement not just part of a team of people who always go with the team. That is why there’s Democrats and Republicans. The two groups perspective, that’s it’s just that some are about individual happiness and some are more property, No. One has a solid philosophical foundation, and the other doesn’t.
    9. What’s your number one issue:
      1. Nick: Criminal justice reform and the war on drugs. Seeing it destroy communities and with every cop who murders- if you ran Dick Cheney and he ran on nothing but ending the war on drugs across the country, I would vote for him at convention.
      2. Dave: What a load of first world privilege. You would take killing a million Iraqi’s if it would end the war on drugs at home?
      3. Nick: Do you have any evidence that wouldn’t happen anyway? Cause they have for the last 4 administrations!
    10. Shouldn’t the LP be more about a libertarian future than just votes and such?
      1. Nick: The votes do that. Exs. marriage and drugs.
      2. Dave: It doesn’t serve the movement to pretend that was the LP. It was the left. We’re losing everything.
    11. Do you really think people feel free? BLM, TDSers?
      1. Nick: These are the groups we can reach.
      2. Dave: so we make the point it takes zero courage to make. I have converted more I have a bigger audience. Here’s how you convince, you believe in something. Do things like back-peddle and no one cares.
    12. How can the LP call itself the anti-war party at home and abroad and oppose any form of gun control. How many people need to die before you wake up?
      1. Dave: She had some courage. I will support us turning in our guns as soon as we run a background check on the government and see if they are going not go on a killing spree.
      2. Violence is the issue and the libertarian platform is for minimizing that in ways like ending wars and criminal justice reform and drug legalization. These things are good in themselves and they’ll truly help the problem of gun violence.

  6. Dave’s Closing Statement:
    1. Convert how? By standing for something.
    2. Fed and War are disqualifying.
    3. Johnson faux success. Membership is low. was higher with real candidate.
    4. State is dramatically growing. Getting worse.
    5. 2016 was the time for real spokesperson.
    6. 2020 will be another.
    7. Nick doesn’t know how to help the liberty movement. He grossly alienated its most effective recruiters.
    8. It is time to finally wake them up.

  7. Nick’s Closing Statement
    1. Most people don’t know about Libertarians
    2. We need to run candidates who can appeal to outsiders and Johnson Weld did.
    3. War and Fed are purity tests. Imply issue weight is subjective / relative.
    4. Rocks from the side line? Party-members participate!
    5. Gary Johnson got more ballot access.

  8. *Drumroll*
    Dave wins a tootsie roll, Oxford style.

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